Fandom in general seems so quick to accept the ending of 4X13 that it hurts, y’know? I read somewhere that those of us who are new to Who and love Rose (and therefore see things more from her POV) are more likely to accept the resolution of 4X13 than those of us who are old-timers and love the Doctor (and therefore see things more from his POV).
I just wanted to test the theory (besides which, my temper is threatening to get the better of me on the subject and I needed the distraction.)
I very much see things from his perspective, and purely from that perspective that ending stings like a mother. Although if you don't take the Donna situation into account, I think this puts him in a closer frame of mind to what he would've been like if when he'd first sent Rose away to Pete's World she'd simply stayed there.
He had control in that situation, and he had control in this one. He chose to walk away - my real question is, if it weren't for the existence of Ten II, what would he have done?
I think he might have tried, given what his mental state might've been if his had just been forced into doing what Ten II did in the story, but I don't think Rose would have let him.
Lol, no. When you reply with "This," it's sort of the same thing as replying with "iawtc."
In other words, I've wondered the same thing myself and have possibly lost sleep over it. >_> That's what I get for watching the episode so shortly before I was supposed to sleep that night. Though that was work's fault.
I don't think he would have abandoned her on the beach if 10.5 wasn't there. Frankly, I don't think she would have let him.
I think the fact that I can't really form proper sentences right now has something to do with it, lolz. I stayed up far too late last night and even coffee has failed me this morning. :P
Yeah...I know what you mean. And it does hurt. And I don't know who is more likely to accept it. I think maybe the group that is least likely to accept it love the Doctor & Rose as a pair. As a couple. It's not that I don't love them to death apart, because I really do. But when they were together...it was the cutest and best thing that I've ever seen in DW so far. The finale is hard to accept for me because it kinda feels like RTD cheated us. It's kinda happy but extremely depressing because it's not right. Well, it is, but it isn't at the same time.
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preserved_ginger) wrote2008-07-10 07:52 pm
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Just the question makes my head hurt.
Sorry *hugs*
Fandom in general seems so quick to accept the ending of 4X13 that it hurts, y’know? I read somewhere that those of us who are new to Who and love Rose (and therefore see things more from her POV) are more likely to accept the resolution of 4X13 than those of us who are old-timers and love the Doctor (and therefore see things more from his POV).
I just wanted to test the theory (besides which, my temper is threatening to get the better of me on the subject and I needed the distraction.)
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He had control in that situation, and he had control in this one. He chose to walk away - my real question is, if it weren't for the existence of Ten II, what would he have done?
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This.
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Do you mean the same thing he did anyway?
That was my reading of it, aye.
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but I don't think Rose would have let him.
No, neither do I. And frankly I don’t think she’d have let him leave her with not-him, either, had she had even half a chance.
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In other words, I've wondered the same thing myself and have possibly lost sleep over it. >_> That's what I get for watching the episode so shortly before I was supposed to sleep that night. Though that was work's fault.
I don't think he would have abandoned her on the beach if 10.5 wasn't there. Frankly, I don't think she would have let him.
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Yeah...I know what you mean. And it does hurt. And I don't know who is more likely to accept it. I think maybe the group that is least likely to accept it love the Doctor & Rose as a pair. As a couple. It's not that I don't love them to death apart, because I really do. But when they were together...it was the cutest and best thing that I've ever seen in DW so far. The finale is hard to accept for me because it kinda feels like RTD cheated us. It's kinda happy but extremely depressing because it's not right. Well, it is, but it isn't at the same time.
I'm so confused.
I'm sorry people are upsetting you. *HUGS*