Because I have a possible plot-bunny and want to see if it would fly – a poll

[preserved_ginger]

[Poll #1270026]

Comments

[helygen.livejournal.com]

I want to say "Yes" but I fear that there may be too much at stake, in which case I believe that the Doctor would choose not to mess about with time lines even if it would ensure his (and Rose's) happiness. I would love him to do that, though *sigh*

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

I want to say "Yes" but I fear that there may be too much at stake, in which case I believe that the Doctor would choose not to mess about with time lines even if it would ensure his (and Rose's) happiness.

I’ve deliberately chosen the Doctor at what’s probably his lowest point in S3 (you don’t get much lower than asking the Daleks to kill you), as I think he’s just the wrong side of madness at that point – if he could get Rose back I think he’d do it, and hang the consequences.

I would love him to do that, though *sigh*

He may do, yet. Depends, in part, on how this poll turns out :)

[helygen.livejournal.com]

Oh wow I'm looking forward to this. If anyone can pull it off, you can :)

[glory_jean]

Of course he wouldn't, but then again a clever cheat could be in order.

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

As I said to helygen, he’s suicidal at that point (for a variety of possible reasons, but I think mainly because of the events at Canary Wharf); if he’s already that dark, what’s another step or two?

[glory_jean]

Oh, absolutely. It would make for great story telling to have the Doctor screw up and have to fix things. But I demand AU and unambiguously happy endings. ;)

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

Not to mention you have Ten II to throw into the mix. Which might be a way of solving the whole damn mess sans Reapers, now I come to think of it ...

[glory_jean]

*hands over carrots to feed to the plot-bunnies* ;p

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

If I do it at all it will be in this (http://bananasandroses.livejournal.com/tag/series:+to+days+to+come) universe. I think it will fit spectacularly well after this (http://bananasandroses.livejournal.com/33261.html), actually.

[glory_jean]

Ooh, yes. That is very dark and sad. It would make me happy to a follow up with a resolved ending. Are you thinking multi-chaptered?

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

I’m not sure of anything, yet. This might end up as a major fix-it!fic if I could pull it off. Want in? I could use the help!

[glory_jean]

Sure, I'm game. :)

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

Hurray!

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Even if he wanted to - or actually did it - wouldn't the Reapers be turning up for mucking up their timelines?

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

In theory, yes, although this is sci-fi so just about anything could happen. And if I need a work-around, Ten II could just possibly come in useful.

It’s still only at the plot-bunny-nibbling-at-ankle stage, though.

ETA: And to be honest I think at that stage the poor man’s so far gone that he won’t much care about Reapers. Which could make for an interesting tale of its own, I reckon ...

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Very interesting tale.

I wonder how Rose would react to it all. I mean, she went through the trauma of having to watch her father give up his life for her just because she screwed with time. She'd probably be completely disturbed to see the Doctor now screwing with time.

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

It’s a good point. Given that I doubt Ten II would have told her much, if anything, of what Ten had been like during that period, I think it’s arguable that actually seeing with her own eyes what he’d been like in that time would distress her just as much.

[requialexa.livejournal.com]

I wonder....If he doesn't make any permanent changes, he might fuff with the "rules" a bit until Rose fixes him up again. I think she might have to set things right in order to preserve the space-time continuum and stuff and avoid reapers or something. Sounds long and plotty though! Sounds fun and wonderful and full of potentially wonderful shippyness...

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

I think it could be interesting, aye, although it’s only a nibbling-at-the-ankle type bunny at the moment.

Reapers, I agree, are the main problem but even then they’re possibly avoidable ... I wonder if a Ten that looks and sounds like a Ten but isn’t (Ten II, here’s looking at you, kid!) would be enough to fool ’em? Possibly not, but it’d be fun finding out.

[principia-coh.livejournal.com]

Right after EotD? She'd be lucky if he didn't just whisk her onto the TARDIS and take off for parts unknown without so much as a by-your-leave.

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

Right after EotD?

Yup. That (apart from plausibly right after the events of TYTNW, which would be enough to screw anyone’s head up) is the point at which I think he’s at his lowest point and would be most likely to do it without giving the slightest thought of the consequences.

She'd be lucky if he didn't just whisk her onto the TARDIS and take off for parts unknown without so much as a by-your-leave.

Yup, that’s rapidly becoming how I see things, too.

[maniacalshen.livejournal.com]

I chose "Don't Know" because my brain kind of exploded when I read that sentence.

Actually, now that I think about it... if the Rose he met was angry and very unhappy, or if she was of the opinion that the proper Doctor didn't really love her, he might be so horrified as to attempt to change the timeline. Besides, he might be able to save Donna, too, depending on how he goes about it.

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

if the Rose he met was angry and very unhappy, or if she was of the opinion that the proper Doctor didn't really love her, he might be so horrified as to attempt to change the timeline.

Precisely.

He adores her, he’d do anything (including changing time) for her.

Besides, he might be able to save Donna, too, depending on how he goes about it.

That, my friend, is a Very Good Point (and one I’d completely missed somehow).

[caterwolime.livejournal.com]

I think if he came into a transitional period where Rose still doesn't know which way is up, he might consider it a bit longer than if he arrived five+ years after and Rose was coming to terms with it. I think he would change time if it was really bad.

[effulgent-girl.livejournal.com]

He probably would, but then would have to end up losing her again to fix everything, since the Reapers would probably show up, unless some timey wimey stuff was going on and it could be explained away. But I think his need and grief for her were so great then that he would have done it.

[theorclair.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure he'd do it, but it's not completely out of the question. If he did he'd probably think that if it went bad a Reaper would eat him first, considering now he's probably even lower in mood than he was then.

[pncwho.livejournal.com]

I think that would be an interesting scenario. If the Doctor could pull it off without bringing in the Reapers or causing the collapse of the Universe/s, he would. Even at his lowest point, he would not deliberately endanger the lives of billions of sentient beings.

If you could unravel the mess with the Clone and Donna as well, all the better! (I'm one of those who was not at all happy about how Journey's End ended, but I think posting a rant about it three months after it aired would be a little pointless. Still, I'd love to see a really good fixit story.)